Andy is not eating much and only tiny bites, mom Penny is concerned

Andy has been off his feed for about a week. Photo: Penny Pucher

UPDATE: 10-20-20:

Penny Pucher
Well we are home
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And?
Penny Pucher
He has a mouth infection in the folds of his mouth. For that he is on Clindamycin. He is also on 4 day of Cerenia.
Vet said his kidney values are misbehaving prob due to the Lasix so he cut that dose down to once a day. Also stop the allergy pills for now
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Oh my. What is infected? Lips, gums? I’ve never heard of that.
Usually bacterial infections would be in the teeth and gums, viral or fungal in the lips and inner cheeks. Clinda is for bacteria
Penny Pucher
I looked it up. I will send a pic

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What an odd thing. I can’t imagine how that would happen. Did the vet say why it would happen? I’m wondering what you do to prevent it.
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Here is a product marketed to avoid it returning, it looks to me like you could just use plain unrefined coconut oil which has similar properties. I have never personally owned a dog with those characteristics but it makes sense to me that this would be something that happens to dogs with wrinkly faces in particular. Shih tzus wrinkles are obscured by their furriness☺️ https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07DFSBB5M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_8oGJFbNN9HGR1
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So I am not recommending you get this I think it’s smarter to just use unrefined organic coconut oil if necessary that you can get at any store.
Penny Pucher
From what I read… Food, saliva, dirt can collect in the pockets of his mouth. I guess that what caused it.
Basically I read the fur by the mouth need to be cut short and cleaned
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Yeah that makes sense
Usually you expect infections like that to be fungal in nature because of the wet
Penny Pucher
That’s what the vet said. Dogs with wrinkly caces and flattened snouts can get it. I’d never heard of it till today
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We learn something new everyday! That you didn’t know about it is surprising considering all of the Shih Tzus you’ve had
Probably because you watch them like a hawk so it never had a chance!
Penny Pucher
I know! I never heard of it. But he and Mosey were the only 2 with jowls and pushed in snouts
I put pee pee pads in Andy’s beds and crates. I fed him warmed baby food at noon. He’s been sleeping on and off since then. As for dinner I’m cutting it as fine as possible.
I washed his jowls gently with a warm cloth. My did he complain. He dislikes me washing his face period
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Awwwww poor baby. It must really be uncomfortable. I’ve never met anyone who likes to have their face washed😅
I’m so glad it was an easy diagnosis. I will certainly be more aware of this for the future. Kind of crazy with all the dogs we’ve been through that this has never come up over the past nine years.
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I don’t know if you remember my recommendation of this probiotic that I added to the bottom of the article about Misty and Andy’s diarrhea a while back? https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00IO5A3T6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_0NGJFbQNKKAA9

C.difficile is bacteria that can form as a result of taking clindamycin. It’s a horrible infection you don’t want him to have. It could pass to Misty and even to you. Clindamycin is particularly bad for it. I’ll see if I can find some of that research to send you. If you don’t already have some Biospora on hand I highly recommend that you get it and keep it available for yourself when you go on antibiotics and for the fur kids.

PRAY FOR: Andy, 13 yo. Eating Issues, CHF (Chronic Heart Failure). Lord Jesus You know what a loving, careful pet parent mom Penny is. We ask that You would help the Vet to get to the root of what’s causing this aversion to food with a boy who has always been a good eater. We ask that this issue would be correctable quickly. Please give the Vet Your wisdom to help solve this problem. In the Name of Elohim Echad V’hechakham:The Only Wise God. Amen. <3 Caren

Penny Pucher 10-19-20: I’m taking Andy to the vet. Hopefully today. I think he may have a mouth issue. He hasn’t been really enthusiastic about food. He eats but slower. Refuses treats and acts like his mouth hurts. He was licking his paw tonight and I saw a small amt of spit and blood on his blanket. The spot he licked when I checked it I saw a skin tag there.

1 Corinthians 1: 20 Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe. 22 For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, 24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

TUE 9:37 AM
Penny Pucher
C when u have time I need to talk to you
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What’s up?
TUE 5:16 PM
Penny Pucher
Andy is getting very picky with his food. In the am he is only eating a few bites. He gets the probiotics and digestive enzymes with his breakfast. Any ideas on how to get him to eat?
TUE 6:48 PM
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Maybe try removing the enzymes or the probiotics and see how he does. He may have too much of either one or need a different strain of probiotic.

Andy (lt) and Misty

Penny Pucher
Ok. I will stop them for a few days. Maybe getting them every day is too much ? Perhaps I should cut down to a few days a week?
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I’d take it day by day. His gut may be restored and not require them any more, or maybe only after a dose of antibiotics. Take it a day at a time and let me know how it goes 🤗💗🙏
Penny Pucher
Ok. Sounds great! Thank you!
Kisses from Andy and Misty
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Penny Pucher
I’m taking Andy to the vet. Hopefully today. I think he may have a mouth issue. He hasn’t been really enthusiastic about food. He eats but slower. Refuses treats and acts like his mouth hurts.
He was licking his paw tonight and I saw a small amt of spit and blood on his blanket. The spot he licked when I checked it I saw a skin tag there.
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Tooth? I’m off to bed. Please send me a couple pictures of him so I can post him in the morning. Let me know what you think may be going on. Digestive issues? (app is slow)
Penny Pucher
I don’t know. I’m calling the vet when they open 8am). I will take pics of him in the am as he is asleep. He acts as if his mouth hurts. He will take warm baby food from a baby spoon but takes it gingerly.
Good night and hugs to u and V

Andy nearly died a few months ago.


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Ok luv. Your text finally came all the way through. Poor Andy, he’s had a rough year… I’ll watch for pictures in the am. Sleep well my dear. I’m praying for that sweet boy. 🤗💗🙏C
Penny Pucher
Thank you! Hope I sleep.
I will send you pics in the am and will message you after the vet visit
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Penny Pucher
He haa a vet appt at 10 am
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Great! Let’s get to the root of this! How long has he been off his feed?
Penny Pucher
Dry kibble over a week.
Wet kibble, chicken and rice and veggies…if it’s tiny bites he will eat, but slowly.
He has been refusing treats. I normally give him his ❤️ meds in liver sausage by he won’t take it. He will take them in warmer up baby food
He doesn’t seem to be in pain though

We nearly lost Andy in May. Photo: Messenger

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It does sound like a mouth problem. Have you checked his teeth?
Penny Pucher
He won’t let me. He fights me on it. But that’s something he has alawys done. He does have deformed teeth according to the vet
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Hmmm, they should have ways to be able to do that. I will be watching for what they find in the meantime I will go ahead and finish the post. I’m praying for a speedy positive outcome! How is his heart?
Penny Pucher
Last vet visit, his vet was pleased. Lungs sound clear. Heart is the same as it was in June.
He does exactly what he did earlier this year, just moves slower

See Andy’s original post for his brush with death earlier this year. You can follow Andy’s life story search Andy by scrolling down to the searchbox below the FB feed on our homepage.

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